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I'm sure every criminal act done in the name of Christ was committed by a person who truly believed in their hearts that they were actually practising selfless love that Christ advocated in a truly Christlike manner. Their kids are very well behaved and seem to be turning out very functional. I just wonder what in the teachings of Satanism would prevent them from becoming thieves as a means of indulging their desires?

When walking in open territory, bother no one. In refference to being anti superstitious,he believed that the Satanist was practicing intellectual decompression and fullfilling a psychological need that is found in all religions. Like i was wondering if any has a solid info not your personal thoughts and ideas.

- People like this,law abiding folks who practice an antithesis to mainstream add color,balance and character to the world in my opinion.

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Satanisim even lacks the cultural conecttion to heritage like something like Astratu and Satanisim is nowhere near as intellectually interesting as atheisim or agnosticisim. Satanists are like Trekkies, Civil War reenactors or Renissance Faire people, just without the charm of being harmlessly geeky. Have a nice day. Lots of inaccurate myths have grown up around the name. The word is used once in the Bible somewhere in Isaiah I think. Lucifer is Latin for light bearer. It's a name the prophet gave to the king of Babylon possibly Nebuchanezzar, but I'm not sure about that. The name was never meant to apply to Satan. Incidentally there an apocryphical book that claims that Satan rebelled against God because God commanded all the angels to worship Adam. OP,you are right,being a Satanist isn't necessarily bad. I know some and they're cool people. Do a google search on it and you'll see there are many young people,people who weren't even born when Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan embracing the dark religion. Many, I find ,embrace Satanism and the left hand path because of reaction and rebellion against a fanatically religious upbringing. I'm familiar with three types of Satanism. Spiritual Satanism,worship of a literal dark diety. Practitioners believe themselves to be in communion with Satan,whom they believe to be the true God. There there's Medieval Satanism ,which is a reversal of Christianity. They are living the devil's philosophy, and they don't even know it... I'd rather be a child of the King. It's nice that you so keenly believe in evil, but that doesn't speak for everyone. I don't believe in evil, nor do I think I'm worshipping an evil deity. Indulgence doesn't denote compulsion. Don't mistake them for the same thing. But to answer your question, I'd say that it makes a good social topic at parties. Nothing gets people's attention like saying you bath in the blood of infants. Lucifer, Satan , Beelzubub, Angel of Light, Fallen Arch Angel, The most beautiful angel that God created pays very high respect to His Creator whenever He goes to visit the God of all Creation. Satan used to be a follower of God. His name was Lucifer, changed to Satan, the Father of all lies and deceipt. He visits God often. So my question to you would be, why go to the middle man, when you can go to the Top Man? But what are their real beliefs? And how might these affect their behaviour? Morals to them are like personal and social laws of physics which they call Lex Talionis or Law of the Talon jungle. Instead of the fear of a celestial dictator that deals out punishment, a much harsher penalty for stupity is your own self destruction,which is considered a Satanic sin. From what I've seen,their behavior is a bit odd and othodox depending on who you're talking to at the time. Some are party animal Death Metal musicians,some are businessmen and corporate types,artsy Goth types and scholarly professor types. They can be a bit aloof and at times even nasty if you piss them off One of the most interesting couples I know,a middle aged couple in Tampa. The wife is a Satanic Priestess and the husband is a Druidic Shaman. They resemble a real life Adam's Family. Their kids are very well behaved and seem to be turning out very functional. They're not the Osbornes. I have learned that when you befriend one of them,they take your friendship very seriously and can be beneficial. Like their Wiccan counterparts,they know alot about natural medicines,homeopathy and such. What if your family got in the way of something they wanted? Couldn't this philosophy justify just about any crime provided that they thought they could get away with it and not cause their own self destruction? So Satanists are theives? Or is it the converse that applies? Anyone could find a way to justify commiting a crime, religion has nothing to do with that. So are you a Satanist, Blackskirt? If so and you don't worship an evil deity, are you among the ones who believe in the Law of the Jungle? Where do you fit in the definitions of Satanism given above? If not, do you believe in right and wrong? No matter which form I subscribed to, I would think I followed an evil deity. It's Christianity that views Satan as evil, not me. I would fit under LaVeyian as the the basic rules are the ones I agree with, but that's not to say I agree with all the Doctor has said. No, I don't believe in the concept of evil. What makes you think I would? And if, in the process of indulging yourself, others get hurt, why should you care if you're following a Satanist philosophy? That fun little paragraph makes me think that you would. I believe in far more than just gratifying myself. Perhaps that's where you first went wrong. Though I may do it, it's not a driving force in my live. Blackskirt, I don't know if Satanists are thieves or not. I just wonder what in the teachings of Satanism would prevent them from becoming thieves as a means of indulging their desires? I thought a statement telling you not to steal would be pretty straight forward. If someone had something I want, I would not take it unless they didn't want it anymore. I don't know how this can be confusing. The thing that's meant by that statement is that people should be held accountable. If someone is murdered, the murderer was responsible for it, not the devil or some other supernatural force. Humans are responsible for their own action. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence! Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams! Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit! Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates! Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek! Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires! Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years! Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. Do not harm little children. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him. We all know the problems it often leads to. On the other hand, I will admit that there are some people who should take a drink once in a while and loosen up LOL! One can scarcely argue with the statement that man is another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who has become the most vicious animal of all! But is man JUST another animal? I would say not. He cites religious wars and differences,the Dark Ages with the Inquisition and the anti scientific beliefs of the religious. He touches on Christ's philosophies of turning the other cheek and such and equates it with weakness. You're right about the belief not being much different from other nihlistic,humanistic beliefs. Lavey died back in 1997. His Church of Satan was taken over by his girlfriend,Blache Barton,much to his youngest daughter,Zeena's dismay. In 1990 Zeena renounced her father and joined rival organization,The Temple of Set founded by ex CoS member and former Army psyops intellegence officer,Micheal Aquino. Would murder be among them, for instance? When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. His argument goes something like this:Take gluttony for example,it simply means eating more than is necessary to keep you alive. If you eat to the point of obesity,another sin,pride will lead you to diet and exercise your way to a better appearance. Lust insures the propagtion of the species,anger insures self defence and preservation,greed motivates progress. He expounds more on undefiled wisdom in the SB,he touches on how religious dogma has delayed the progress of science. He is very big on an eye for an eye,but he is also very quick to say he doesn't advocate breaking the law. I hope that clears it up. They might have been better off with the Church against them. Why else would he take such a name? That by expending it in a ritual,it could be directed to perform an act within the practicner's will. Certainly not scientific,but not unlike the methodology practiced by Wiccans and Pagans. In refference to being anti superstitious,he believed that the Satanist was practicing intellectual decompression and fullfilling a psychological need that is found in all religions. Lavey originally started his organization as a discussion group called the Magic Circle. This he did,and in the 60's made a media splash by performing the first Satanic weddings and a Satanic funeral with full cooperation from the US Navy. Such notable followers were filmmaker Kenneth Anger,Jayne Mansfield and Sammy Davis Jr. Basically,and even by his own admission,Lavey was a carnival huckster and junkyard intellectual. Still,makes for a fascinating story. One thing is refreshing in Satanism. There are no hypocrites and no Satanist ever knocked on my door at 7AM on a Saturday morning to try to convert me. Here are some links if you're interested churchofsatan. They're a splinter from the CoS Joyofsatan. They believe Satan to be the true creator and the mix in alot of science fiction type mythos,i. Man was genetically created for slave labor with Jehovah being the evil one wanting to enslave us,Satan being the one who wants to liberate man. It truly takes all kinds to make a world,doesn't it? It's powerless - as impotent as the Christian's devil. Help somebody out and your good action instantly effects someone else in a good way, plus you feel good, and who knows how many others might benifit from one good action. I could have the most negative, miserable and hateful neighbor. His self loathing misery starts and stops with him. Bad things happen as a part of our reality. Hun, when you got your piercings, etc... Why start worrying about them now? I hear God's a lot less critical than people are. They espouse a belief in fierce independence and total self responsibility. Therefore if you over indulge or act in any way irresponsible,you deserve whatever outcome gets back to you. People like this,law abiding folks who practice an antithesis to mainstream add color,balance and character to the world in my opinion. As for Nazi philiosphy many Satanists vociferously denounce Hitler and the Third Reich stating an unbridled lust for power and fanatical devotion to racism. Other groups such as the Joy of Satan espouse a bit of Anti Semetic Nazi belief and can be downright nasty. At any rate,the devout Christian,Muslim,Jew or other RHP white light path has nothing really to fear from these individuals and groups. Aren't the forces of light supposed to defeat the forces of darkness when it's all said or done? I'm sure every criminal act done in the name of Christ was committed by a person who truly believed in their hearts that they were actually practising selfless love that Christ advocated in a truly Christlike manner. Now one may argue that the Mansons,being convinced that Charlie was the resurrected messiah,were a perversion of the Christian philosophy,but then this becomes a matter of perspective. All religions and philosophies become subjective at a point. A criminally sick or depraved mind is such regardless of whether the orientation is Christain,Jew,Muslim,Satanist or Atheist. I measure the worth of a philosophy on how the majority of its followers behave. If they can interact with society at large and function within its rules and social customs than it has value. I would say the person practicing Satanism is far more functional and valueable to society than a Moonie or Hare Krisna. The human being is a complex animal. Satanism is a very individualistic,loner philosophy. You pointed out reasons yourself why some would find it attractive. I submit that there are people,a minority of people,who simply would not function in a traditional religious setting. It acts as a way these types can safely have an outlet for their dark leanings with a philosophical justification. Without these outlets,or social safety valves,many of these fringe types would become violent and anti social. Think of it this way.